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Bandicoot



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PostSubject: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:07 pm

Do Perlino stallions throw colour with certain mares or is that only Cremellos?

Have a nice brown standie mare he'd cross well with, but hoping for colour (as in pally, buckskin etc).
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:28 pm

Hey there Bandicoot Smile

Okies, Perlino is a double dilute on Bay, Cremello is a double dilute on Chestnut.

Roc has a Bay and a Chestnut as well as being double dilute - with the Bay being dominant over the Chestnut, he is Perlino Smile

EVERY single foal that Roc sires will have ONE copy of the dilute gene from him, and either a bay or a chestnut gene from him.

So over a Brown/Bay mare you would guarantee a Bucky or if the mare happens to have a Chestnut gene there, and throws that at the same time as Roc threw a chestnut, then you would get a Pally.

Guaranteed dilute every time with him no matter what to - just depends if you get the bay base producing a bucky or the chestnut base producing a pally Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:34 pm

Ok, as soon as she finishes racing, she's gettin her rox on with the Roc! I'll let ya know. Is that natural service or AI?
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:44 pm

What about liver chestnut and blacks or browns? They tend to through burnt(dirty) buckskins. Have you experienced this with your boy shell?
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:01 pm

Natural service Bandicoot Smile We arent set up for AI yet unfortunately.

Well, you cant really guarantee the 'type' of buckskin you are going to get PH.....

A black mare, you would either get a bright buckskin, a black buckskin, or any other inbetween sort of buckskin OR a pally! Smile The advantage of a black mare is that you know she either has two black, or a black and a chestnut gene, so will depend which one she passes on.

A Liver Chestnut - you will either get a bucky or a pally.... any shade of either really......

Brown is the same as Bay chances wise - just doesnt have the agouti modifier that the bay does.....

What the agouti does is limits the black hair to the extremities......

A bay horse is a brown horse with agouti Smile Sort of.... lol....

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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:41 pm

Oakies, Will let just that all sink in Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:19 am

With a bucky you would have a chance of either bay or perlino is that right?
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:49 am

Perlino stallion over Buckskin mare you would need to know if the mare has a chestnut gene at all?

If she does, you could get Bucky, Pally, Cremello or Perlino.

If she doesnt, you could get Bucky or Perlino Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:09 am

She is by a perlino out of a chestnut.
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:17 pm

my head hurts! Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:59 pm

Amen to that ^
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:24 pm

Ok, so shes by a Perlino out of a Chestnut....

That means she has one Bay gene, and one Chestnut gene (Bay covers Chestnut so you get a 'bay' horse), and then has the dilute gene on top (Perlino HAS to pass on one dilute gene to each of its offspring).....

So.....

With Roc.....

You have a 25% Chance of Bucky, 25% Chance of Perlino, 25% Chance of Pally,and a 25% chance of Cremello. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:54 pm

What about Honey??
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:15 pm

wat about if u put a bay mare to him thats by a chestnut mare an out of a grey stallion ??
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PostSubject: Re: Roc On & colour   Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:37 pm

good chance of the above turning grey!
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